A bungled vote, an axed position and a stubborn executive

The vice president external position has been cut, but Blair Shumlich has yet to leave office.

Shumlich initially pushed for the removal of his position, stating he did not have enough work to do.

Students voted to remove the University of Saskatchewan Students’ Union position at an undergraduate Special General Meeting March 3.

A mistake by the chair led students to believe that Shumlich’s position was to remain in place. However, after consultations with the USSU lawyer, it became clear that the position was voted out.

The discussion has now shifted to whether or not Shumlich should leave his position immediately or on May 1, with the rest of the executive.

The initial confusion began when 37 students voted to remove the position and 22 voted to keep it. The chair had stated that in order for the position to be removed, two-thirds of students had to vote in favour of removal. In reality, only a 50 per cent majority was needed.

“It was a mistake of the chair,” said USSU president Chris Stoicheff. “Any amendment to our bylaw does not require a two-thirds majority, according to the Non-profit Corporations Act. It requires a simple majority.

“[Shumlich] had brought this up with the chair immediately at the meeting, but the chair had overruled him and said it was a two-thirds majority,” said Stoicheff.

Student council and other student meetings run on two systems: Robert’s Rules of Order and the Non-profit Corporations Act of Saskatchewan. Normally, said Stoicheff, the two systems align perfectly.

In this case, the systems conflicted — Robert’s Rules of Order stated that the motion required a two-thirds majority while the Non-profit Corporations Act stated that the motion required a 50 per cent majority.

“The chair was working under Robert’s Rules of Order, but the fact is that the Act governs what we do,” he said. “The Act trumps Robert’s Rules of Order in this case.”

A re-vote will not happen, said Stoicheff, as the USSU’s lawyer believes the 37 to 22 majority vote to be accurate.

“The lawyer thinks that the 37 to 22 vote stands and that the position no longer exists in the sense that the motion that was deemed to have failed because it needed a two-thirds majority has, in fact, passed.”

Many of the other amendments proposed at the SGM did require a two-thirds majority.

“The amendment to the articles of incorporation does require a two-thirds majority,” said Stoicheff, referring to the amendment that changed the required amount of USSU executive members. It was previously five members, but the motion to make the board of directors — which is the executive — consist of four to six members, passed with a two-thirds majority.

A two-thirds majority is also required to impeach a member.

Council will decide this week if it wants to impeach Shumlich. He is still on the executive even though his position has been removed.

If he does not resign before the next student council meeting and if someone motions to impeach him, councillors will vote on whether or not to remove him immediately.

“That will be up to student council and that will be up to Mr. Shumlich,” said Stoicheff, who did provide his personal opinion on the matter.

“As far as I’m concerned, the motion is that the VP external no longer exists and that the VP external position portfolio is under the president now — or under the VP finances in some cases.

“Nowhere in the motion did it allude or did it say that that would take place as of May 1.”

May 1 is the date in which all executive members’ contracts end.

Shumlich believes he should stay on until May 1.

“I was elected to a full year term and, while I don’t think that this position was necessary, I have started things and I intend on finishing them,” he said, pointing to the last week in March as his busiest of the year — the province releases its budget that week.

“I’ll be doing interviews about the budget and finding out what’s going on with the budget.”

He listed a rise in long-term tuition, the Saskatchewan Scholarship Fund, the new Aboriginal students’ centre and an increase in the university’s operating grant as things he has lobbied for this year that he hopes to see in the budget.

He also pointed out that the transition into a four person executive can’t be achieved instantly. As the USSU moves into the new Place Riel, moving and dividing all his files will be a difficult process, he said.
“It’s work that exists and it’s work that I want to do.”

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  • Chuck

    Legitimacy and trust have vanished from the USSU.

    • Katie

      Could you elaborate?

    • Colin

      Oh bitch bitch bitch….

  • Ronald Ray Gun

    Are you kidding me Shumlich? You have absolutely zero integrity.

    • Katie

      Says the man who won't state his name.

  • Ronald Ray Gun

    Nah, it's just Schumlich.

  • Sam

    I disagree, Shumlich is the problem. He should resign, he is only now saying that he has projects that need finishing by the end of the term. The executive would be able to manage without him and should. At the SGM, he made it very clear that he had absolutely nothing to do. This seems to be an issue of Shumlich worrying about a paycheck and not what is best for students. He should resign or if he refuses – be impeached.

  • Chris

    This has been a recurring issue year after year. Even Stoicheff admitted there are often conflicts between executive members given the overlap in portfolios. Perhaps previous years simply saw better coordination of the executive??? because this year it appears that the executive lacks cohession as one of their members is out to the side.

    Besides, you can't impeach him, the bylaw clearly states you need to follow the executive protocol policy to impeach, so any motion to impeach would be a violation of the bylaw and be ruled out of order. If council decides to impeach anyways, it's wrongful termination, and you would have to pay him out – if he didn't file suit for considerably more…

    He was elected for a one year term, so the contract with him is for that period.

    It is the presidents job to coordinate the executive, and here is a clear failure.

  • Megan

    I think your personal attacks at Blair and the USSU executive are unwarranted and unnecessary, and are largely based on one reporter's slant. Take an objective step back and consider the facts: Blair initiated the removal of the position, and a majority voted in favour of this motion. If council or the executive had doubts about Blair's ability to perform his VP duties the motion would have been a vote of non-confidence. This isn't about Blair, it's about a position that (apparently) doesn't consistently add value to the governance of the USSU.

  • Ronald Ray Gun

    Ok, then Blair should resign immediately. As he has stated, the rest of the executive can handle whatever his position entails so he should stop collecting cheques for doing nothing.

    • Blair

      You mean the guy who supposedly wants to save students money by eliminating a position is going to stick around and do no work just so he can continue to take students funds?

  • Blair

    Love it! Guy thinks his position is a waste of money so instead of stepping down he is going to take all the money from students he can get before he leaves. Nothing like class.

  • Scott

    But it's a sunk cost, you have to pay him. If I were him, I wouldn't even bother to show up to the meeting because the best case scenario is that they impeach him. If they do, he would make a TON of money sueing the USSU.

    The fact of the matter is that he came into a position he realized would be better if itdidn't exist, but made the best of it. It's like going into a degree you want, but taking a class that is stupid. You'll still strive for an A, but not want to take it. So he's taking a class that has been eliminated from his degree scheme, but is mid studying for the final exam.

    Finish the job!

    • Chris

      You want to penalize him for doing what other executives couldn't.

    • Steve

      How could he "make a TON of money sueing [sic] the USSU"? He has no grounds on which to sue the ussu. He has the job because he was elected and he can lose it by being impeached. Nothing he can sue about.

    • Daniel

      The USSU is a non-profit corporation, not a government. As such, 'elections' are simply the hiring process set out by the shareholders (students) via the articles of incorporation and bylaws. Dismissing a paid director without cause is the same as wrongful termination, and thus grounds for suit. The fact is, Blair is a contractual employee, and termination without cause before the conclusion of his contract would be grounds for any number of judgement sums. He might not make "a TON," but it would cost students more than just waiting out his contract, or buying him out for salary, medical, dental, and incidentals.

      I can't believe that a Union is arguing for violation of workers rights.

    • Steve

      Dismissing a paid director without cause is not the same as wrongful termination. Besides, even if that was the case, there is cause. HE HIMSELF SAID HIS POSITION IS USELESS AND DOES NOT NEED TO EXIST. That is a pretty good cause for getting rid of the position and the person in it, because IT IS USELESS AND DOES NOT NEED TO EXIST according to the person in it. Now students will pay the last 2 months of his salary so he can find out what the provinicial budget looks like and so he can move some files to a new office? Get the movers to put the files in the president's/vp finance's office while they are moving everything else. Saves students his salary money for 2 months.

    • Kyle

      Even if you are right, the most he could possibly get would be what he is entitled to had he finished his term.

  • Megan

    Blair needs to go, his only reason for sticking around is a paycheck. He has no initiative, it is him that is the problem not the position.

    • Katie

      Blair is not the issue here. He definitely takes initiative and is motivated to do the best he can. Running for the USSU exec is not an easy thing to do. Please come to the meeting tomorrow at 6pm in the new council chambers. You can discuss your proof of your accusations there.

  • Ryan

    Where are the minutes and audio for this? I'm very sure that he didn't contest the vote by bringing up the Rule of Order notion…

  • Bob

    Why does Mr.Shumlich refuse to resign? The reasons he gave for staying are complete bullshit. He was adamant at the SGM that there was absolutely no need for the External position, how is it that he refuses to do what he so obviously should do? There was enough opposition at the SGM to warrant some serious concern over this position being eliminated especially because Blair was speaking to as many people as he possibly could before the meeting to ensure that enough people voted in favour of his motion. This is so sketchy and he even approached me about this, expecting that I would do exactly what he asked and not make my own mind up. This is the dark side of politics and I hope that people can see Blair for what he is.

    The vote was 37 for and 22 against the motion, how many of these people were Blair's cronies and how many were students that were there to voice their legitimate concerns??

    • Robert

      So your issue is that students who were asked to come and vote shouldn't have their vote counted?

    • Bert

      Don't be stupid! Only people asked to come vote in favor of the motion should be disqualified. The motion wouldn't have passed.

    • Rob

      That is not the issue. The issue is when the person who put forward the motion rallies friends and acquaintances to vote his way. Then those votes end up being the deciding factor for a motion that impacts all students. It is not the will of the students, it is instead the will of this person manipulating the odds in his favour. That is not cool.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ishmaeldaro Ishmael N. Daro

      Well, the whole reason the SGM was called was to vote on this matter. All the voters were students who gave their student numbers as verification and their votes are perfectly legitimate. I don't doubt that Shumlich asked his supporters to come; doing anything else would be stupid. And if more people who felt strongly against the motion chose not to come, then they missed their chance.

      There is some valid criticism to be made here, but disqualifying votes because you happen to disagree with the outcome seems unfair.

  • Bernard

    As opposed to those who were asked to come and vote against, as I was…

  • Alice

    so, you're arguing what, sampling error? go go a democratic process based on who decides to show up???

    He didn't break any rules, so shut up

    • Ringo

      On the contrary, he broke unspoken rules and I personally take his actions to be manipulative and obstructive to what students actual want.

      Since we are resorting to childishness… no you shut up.

  • Katie

    Blair has always shown a strong interest in politics and has done well in this position. He was elected to serve his one year term, therefore he should finish this term. The vote was for next year's executive, not this one. I don't think we should be punishing someone just for being honest and taking careful, considerate steps when dealing with such a difficult decision. These personal attacks are shameful.

  • Katie

    It's true. When you put several students of various political backgrounds in an office, there will be disputes. By the end of the year, they're typically not friendly in the slightest. Shumlich should not be insulted for doing the right thing. Finish the job.

    • Sarah

      Your idea of the right thing is relative. Varying political ideologies do not excuse the unprofessional behaviour that Blair is engaging in. Impeach.

    • Katie

      How is he being unprofessional? He's trying to finish the term that he was elected to serve. Yes, he wants the position removed, and he has succeeded in that. He has not been inappropriate or unprofessional.

    • Blair

      He wanted the position removed as he stated he was doing nothing and that somebody should not be paid to do nothing. So why does he not do the honorable thing and step down?

  • Wally

    True!

  • Tannara Yelland

    To me, the issue is not and should not be Blair's performance at his job, nor is it the voting process. Democracy almost always kind of sucks; that's usually how you know it's working. My problem is that Blair's main claim for why the position needed to be eliminated was that it is an unfair and unnecessary cost to students. Since that is his belief, it seems to me the height of irresponsibility for him to continue to accept a pay check for this job, which he clearly has no confidence in and feels should not be provided any student money.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ishmaeldaro Ishmael N. Daro

      Shut up!

    • Greg

      Shut the hell up, Ishmael!! I'm sitting beside you right now and I'm about to punch your dumb ass.

  • Christa

    The attacks on Blair are completely understandable considering the way Blair has treated this position. When you make remarks like the ones that he did at the SGM about the position not being needed at all and then refuse to step down after making such obtuse comments, one should question what sort of person he is. As a student, I haven't found Blair to be an adequate representative and I have not seen any evidence of the initiative that Katie mentioned him taking during the year. If he has, he has not done a good job of being transparent to students nor has he been accountable.

    The way I see it, getting rid of this position was something Blair decided would be his goal and his achievement for the past year on the exec. He doesn't want to step down from this position because he sees his own personal financial repercussions, the cost to students or being productive is not at the fore front of his mind. He should've thought of that when he was outlining how little he has had to do all year. If there were initiatives or projects that he was working on, he should have brought them up at the SGM.

    Whether Blair likes it or not, this is personal, politics are personal. He assumed that no one would question him and that students would allow him to ride out the next month and a half. Fortunately, students are coming out and questioning his actions which will hopefully make him question the way that he has spent the past year. I hope that the members of student council take students concerns into perspective when deciding whether Blair should be allowed to remain in a position that in actuality no longer exists.

    • Katie Salmers, MSC

      Blair has been transparent about his actions. Sometimes it is difficult to get the message to the students when they are simply not listening. It needs to be a mutual effort. The VPs need to get the information out there, and the students have to seek it out. I assure you, if you read the minutes of the meetings, Blair did not just sit idly while the rest of council discussed the issues at hand.

      I hope that councilors listen to the students and Blair's reasons to stay. Predetermined opinions seem to have dominated the council. Personally, I'm tired of cyclical arguments and stubbornness for the sake of stubbornness from both the students and members of student government.

    • Blair

      Katie, you ran an election as the ASSU President which was rejected by the USSU. I am not sure you can speak out on the issue with any credibility.

    • Katie Salmers

      Ah I see you don't know the whole story. That's cool. No worries. I forgive you.

    • John McEnroe

      Ooooooooooo you got SERVED!

    • Katie Salmers

      Haha the whole thing was a series of miscommunications over a year ago. I really don't see how it affects my credibility in the slightest. If you or anyone has questions about it, I'd be happy to answer them. No secrets here.

  • Alecia Nagy, MSC

    I sure hope that "Alecia" isn't trying to pose as me. Although I haven't met another "Alecia" in my time at the unversity…

  • Alecia Nagy, MSC

    Telling people to "shut up" isn't the best way to argue/debate. Just saying.

    • Ringo

      well dur

    • Alecia Nagy, MSC

      Also, like I said below, I hope nobody thinks this Alecia is me, the Edwards MSC…

  • Sara Waldbillig, MSC

    Well here's hoping all you lovely people come out Thursday at 6 pm if you are truly concerned with the issue at hand. Upper Lower Place is the location as the new chamber is opening. This debate is important either way and on either side.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ashleighmattern Ashleigh Mattern

      Upper Place Riel?

    • Sara Waldbillig

      Yes. Most of the debate tonight however will probably be on the feasibility of a Social Justice Centre however.

  • Probably a Fake Name

    Imagine what the world would be like if people invested HALF the amount of energy into creating constructive change as they do criticizing other people. This story has received more responses than any story I've seen this year. Bravo, people.

    • Blair

      Blair stated openly his position was useless and he had no work to do. Those are his own words so it is hard to say anybody is being negative if they dare ask Blair to step down now and save students money if he is doing no work as he says he is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kenneth-Reynaldo-Diaz/837080359 Kenneth Reynaldo Diaz

    I don't want to comment on the issue – I do want to talk about this article. Other than the phrase "stubborn executive" (which I think is too vague to be taken as a serious attack), I'm glad that Menz's position on the matter didn't seep in too much. I enjoy reading reporting rather than commentary. Good job.

  • Malcolm

    If you want to find the passion of Blair, look no further than the article photo. The guy wears a bow tie to SGM for crying out loud! He bleeds passion.